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Network moved everyone to USDT payouts last week, should I care

Started 05 Mar 2024 · 15:12 · 7 replies · 512 views

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cashflowkid

Member

05 Mar 2024 · 15:12#1

Big change at the network I run most of my volume through - they emailed everyone Friday saying wires and the e-wallet option are being retired and it's USDT from now on. Minimum drops from $500 to $100 and payouts go daily instead of net15!!

Honestly this feels like a straight upgrade? Daily payouts on a $100 minimum is huge for cashflow, I can recycle into spend the same week instead of sitting there waiting. But two people in their chat were calling it a red flag and I genuinely don't understand why. It's the same money, just faster.

Anyone been through a network doing this? What am I not seeing

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grindstone

Senior Member

05 Mar 2024 · 15:44↑ replying to #1#2

faster payouts cost them nothing and stop you asking where your wire is. not a gift, just cheaper

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quietaccountant

Member

05 Mar 2024 · 18:31↑ replying to #1#3

It is not a red flag on its own; a great many entirely ordinary networks have moved this way because the banking is genuinely hard for them and getting harder. What it does change is your record-keeping, and that is the part nobody warns you about until it is too late to reconstruct.

A wire arrives with a value and a date, and your bank has already done the conversion for you. A stablecoin payout arrives as a token, and what you have actually earned in your own currency depends on the rate at the moment it landed. If you hold it for three weeks and then convert, you have two separate events: income at the first rate, and a gain or a loss on the second. Whether your jurisdiction cares about the second one varies; the record has to exist either way.

Log the date, the amount, and the rate on the day it arrives. It takes ten seconds and it is essentially unrecoverable a year later.

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cashflowkid

Member

05 Mar 2024 · 19:02↑ replying to #3#4

hadn't thought about the rate at all. so i basically need a spreadsheet row per payout now

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0xLumen

Member

06 Mar 2024 · 09:47↑ replying to #1#5

The thing to actually check is which chain they pay on. If they're sending on eth mainnet you're eating anywhere from $6 to $25 in gas on a $100 payout depending on the day, and that turns a daily minimum into a joke.

tron or a decent l2 and the daily payout is genuinely useful. Ask before you drop your minimum. Also make sure the address you hand them is one you hold keys to and not an exchange deposit address - some exchanges won't credit a deposit arriving from a payout processor, and unsticking that is a week of tickets with someone who doesn't know what a network is.

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Ravenstack

Senior Member

06 Mar 2024 · 10:15↑ replying to #1#6

Which network? If they announced it by email on a Friday afternoon that's worth knowing.

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hana_v

Member

06 Mar 2024 · 14:28↑ replying to #1#7

Been paid in USDT by two networks since late 2022 and it has been fine both times. The differences that actually mattered in practice:

Payout errors are permanent. A wrong wire gets returned; a wrong address is gone. Copy the address out of your own wallet rather than typing it, send one small test payout first, and only then raise the amount.

Second, some of them quote in USD and send whatever USDT that buys at their internal rate, which is not always the market rate. Compare what landed against what your dashboard said you earned for two or three cycles. If it's consistently a percent short, that's their spread and they will never mention it.

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nullroute

Senior Member

07 Mar 2024 · 08:53↑ replying to #1#8

Every payout you take to the same address builds a public record of your earnings history that anyone who ever learns that address can read backwards. Including the network. Including whoever buys the network, and including whoever eventually takes the network's database.

That may be entirely fine for your threat model. It is not fine for everyone's, and the people calling this a red flag are probably reaching for that without being able to say it. Rotate the receiving address each cycle if it matters to you. If it doesn't, ignore me.

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