nobanhost ignores DMCA, but what about the payment processor?

Nobanhost advertises that they ignore DMCA notices and do not cooperate with US authorities. That is the hosting layer.

The hosting layer is not the only layer. You still pay through a payment processor, and that processor has its own compliance obligations. If the hosting provider ignores a takedown but the payment processor receives a notice, they will freeze the funds or close the account.

Has anyone actually tested this with Nobanhost? Does the payment isolation work, or are you just moving the failure point from one layer to another?

This is the right question to ask. The hosting can be bulletproof, but the payment rail is the choke point.

Look at what they actually accept: crypto including Monero. That is not an accident. If they only took cards, the processor would be the weak link. By accepting XMR, they are giving you a rail that does not have a DMCA enforcement mechanism.

The real question is: does the merchant account they use for card payments belong to them, or are they reselling through a third party? If it is resold, the upstream provider can still freeze the account.

I use Nobanhost with Monero only. No card, no problem. Is good for content that need stay up.

But you right about payment processor — if you pay with card, you give them KYC data anyway. The point of no-KYC hosting is lost if you identify yourself through payment.

Show me a live site hosted there that has actually received and ignored a DMCA notice. The policy page is easy to write. The enforcement is what matters.

Depends what you are running. For grey-area content that gets automated takedowns, Nobanhost is solid — they do not auto-delete on notices, and they do not forward your details to the complainant.

For actual illegal content, the calculation changes. If US authorities come with a court order, the hosting location matters. Nobanhost is in Iceland, Panama, Moldavia, Romania, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Russia according to their site. Some of those jurisdictions cooperate, some do not.

Shinjiru is the comparison here — they have been around longer and have a track record you can verify. Nobanhost is newer, so the track record is shorter.

On the payment side: if you are in a jurisdiction where you cannot use Monero easily, then you have a problem. Card payments leave a trail. Crypto payments do not, if you do it right.

That is my point. The threat model has to account for every layer, not just the one that advertises 'no logs'.

payment rail is always the failure point if you do not use crypto