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What kind of offer should a first one be if you've never bought traffic?

Started 11 Feb 2025 · 19:14 · 14 replies · 1.0k views

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d_marchetti

Jr. Member

11 Feb 2025 · 19:14#1

Sorry if this belongs in the newbie section, I read for a while before posting and this seemed like the right board because it's an offer question rather than a general one.

Background so the answers are useful: I've been approved at two networks, mostly because I was honest that I'm starting out and one manager was nice about it. I have about $600 I'm willing to lose and I mean actually lose, not "lose but be upset". I've never run a paid campaign in my life. I can write reasonably well and I've built a couple of small sites for other reasons so I'm not scared of a domain and a host.

The dashboards have hundreds of offers and I have no way to tell which of them are appropriate for someone who has never done this. I keep getting told "pick something with a low payout so the volume is higher" and also "low payouts are a race to the bottom, go for higher ticket", which cannot both be right.

So the question is not which offer. It's what kind of offer, and why that kind.

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cashflowkid

Member

11 Feb 2025 · 19:41↑ replying to #1#2

Sweeps! Low payout, converts on basically nothing, you'll see data fast which is the whole point when you're learning!!

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grindstone

Senior Member

11 Feb 2025 · 19:58↑ replying to #2#3

he said 600 and never bought traffic. sweeps means pop or push, means he's bidding against people with two years of data on the same placements, means the 600 is gone by sunday and he's learned that he lost.

fast data is only useful if you can read it, mate

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hana_v

Member

11 Feb 2025 · 21:07↑ replying to #1#4

You're asking the question in the wrong order, and it's not your fault because everyone asks it this way.

The traffic source decides the offer, not the other way round. Whatever you can actually get traffic from — and with no experience and $600 that is a much shorter list than you think — has rules about what it will carry, and that narrows you to maybe two verticals. Pick the source first, look at what's allowed on it, and then the offer question mostly answers itself.

On the specific contradiction you're stuck on: low payout offers need volume to give you a readable number, and volume costs money you don't have. Higher payout offers give you a readable number sooner because ten conversions on a $40 offer tells you something and ten conversions on a $1.20 offer tells you nothing. That's the actual reason to lean higher, not the ticket size.

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Marta_K

Member

11 Feb 2025 · 22:19↑ replying to #1#5

Can you build and host a landing page yourself, or are you planning to send traffic straight to the network's page? You said you've built sites but you didn't say whether you'd do it for this.

It changes the answer completely so it's worth being clear about.

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d_marchetti

Jr. Member

12 Feb 2025 · 08:02↑ replying to #5#6

I can build one, yes. WordPress or plain HTML, either is fine. I'd assumed direct linking was the beginner route so I hadn't planned on it but I'm not against it.

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Marta_K

Member

12 Feb 2025 · 09:47↑ replying to #6#7

Then don't direct link, and that pushes you toward a different kind of offer than the one you were about to pick.

With a page of your own you can run leadgen — the boring stuff. Insurance quotes, home services, debt, education. Payouts in the $15 to $60 range, the advertiser wants a form filled in rather than a card entered, and crucially the compliance bar is low enough that you won't get an account killed in week two while you're still learning what a bid does.

The caveat, and it's a real one: those offers usually convert on intent, which means your traffic has to be intent-shaped. Search or something search-adjacent. That's slower and less fun than pop traffic and you'll spend three weeks with almost no data. Most people can't stand it and go run sweeps anyway.

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tmp_9931

Jr. Member

12 Feb 2025 · 10:15#8

following, same boat roughly

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old_growth_seo

Senior Member

12 Feb 2025 · 14:33↑ replying to #1#9

Everyone in here is answering the paid traffic version of your question and you have $600, which in 2025 buys you roughly one weekend of finding out that you don't know what you're doing.

Back in 2014 the standard answer to your post was "build a small site about something boring, rank it for four keywords nobody is fighting over, and put a lead form on it", and the reason that answer went out of fashion is that it takes six months, not that it stopped working. It has not stopped working. It has got harder at the top and roughly the same at the bottom, which is where you are.

So: recurring or lead-based, in a vertical where the buyer has a problem rather than an impulse. Something with a renewal or a callback, because a first-timer who picks an impulse vertical is competing on creative and speed against people who do only that. You're not going to win that in your first quarter.

The genuinely useful sentence in this post is the one about the buyer having a problem rather than an impulse. The rest is me being old.

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grubstake88

Member

12 Feb 2025 · 16:41↑ replying to #1#10

Had almost exactly your setup in 2019 - similar money, similar zero experience, could build a page. Went with a local services leadgen offer paying $22 a lead because the manager said it was forgiving, and it was. Made about $80 profit over two months which sounds pathetic and was the most useful $600 I ever nearly lost.

What made it work wasn't the vertical - it was that the advertiser accepted leads slowly and told me why the rejected ones were rejected. That feedback loop is the whole product when you're learning. Ask your manager which of his advertisers actually give reject reasons and pick from that list.

What are the two networks? Not asking you to name them if you'd rather not - just whether either of them is one of the big ones or both are small.

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d_marchetti

Jr. Member

12 Feb 2025 · 18:29↑ replying to #10#11

Both smallish, one is the one everyone here complains about the dashboard on. I'll ask about reject reasons, that hadn't occurred to me at all and it's an obvious question in hindsight. Thank you.

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Ravenstack

Senior Member

13 Feb 2025 · 09:11↑ replying to #9#12

"It has not stopped working" — for you, on domains you've held since before it got hard. Not the same thing as it working for someone starting a site this month.

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old_growth_seo

Senior Member

13 Feb 2025 · 10:04↑ replying to #12#13

Partly fair. My aged inventory is doing work I don't always credit it for.

I'd still take a new site in a boring vertical over $600 of pop traffic and I don't think that's nostalgia. But you're right that I should say six to nine months and a second $600 rather than pretending the runway is short.

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d_marchetti

Jr. Member

04 Mar 2025 · 20:52↑ replying to #1#14

Update in case it helps anyone reading later, and thanks to everyone who replied.

Went with a leadgen offer in home services, $19 a lead, built a page myself. Three weeks in I've spent $210 and made $76 back, so I'm down, but I know why I'm down - my form is too long and I can see exactly where people leave. That's more than I expected to know at this stage.

Still not sure whether the slow route was the right call or whether I've just found a comfortable way to lose money more slowly. Ask me in June.

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sable_

Member

04 Mar 2025 · 21:38↑ replying to #14#15

Losing money slowly with a reason is the entire job. Congratulations.

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